Comments on: When/Why is Calculation Fun? https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/06/10/when-why-is-calculation-fun/ Board Game Reviews, Analysis, and Strategy Thu, 16 Jun 2022 07:36:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Jeremy Hansuvadha https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/06/10/when-why-is-calculation-fun/#comment-583 Thu, 16 Jun 2022 07:36:09 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3710#comment-583 In reply to Marc Davis.

Thank you for your reply, Marc. The sudoku example you give in #3 helps me understand.

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By: Marc Davis https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/06/10/when-why-is-calculation-fun/#comment-582 Thu, 16 Jun 2022 01:46:29 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3710#comment-582 In reply to Jeremy Hansuvadha.

I’ll try to explain better.

1. The desire to be witnessed can be viewed from a number of angles, but in this context it’s about sharing in success with others at the table. I know when I play a computationally heavy game and I see an opponent figure out a clever move, I’m impressed by that and let them know. It’s about struggling through the rigors of the game alongside each other.

2. Figuring out a good move is about simplifying the math, taking a number of different figures and incentives and simplifying them down to “is A better than B or vice versa?” I think there’s some pleasure in that.

3. When I watch people solving puzzles on youtube (I’ve been enjoying sudoku recently), they’ll often comment that a particular puzzle or aspect to that puzzle is “beautiful”. That’s something I’ve experienced myself–a puzzle so clever and subtle that it seems to be a thing of beauty.

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By: Jeremy Hansuvadha https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/06/10/when-why-is-calculation-fun/#comment-580 Mon, 13 Jun 2022 19:54:07 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3710#comment-580 Interesting. I’m having trouble understanding what you mean with your 3 points at the end. I think if you gave some examples of each, it would help me to understand.

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By: RALF BRECHTEL https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/2022/06/10/when-why-is-calculation-fun/#comment-579 Sat, 11 Jun 2022 06:09:23 +0000 https://thethoughtfulgamer.com/?p=3710#comment-579 Hello, at first i don’t like Feld/Lacerda/Pfister games.
They are prime examples of the german way of : A game should hurt nobody. Everybody is a winner in the end, cause he have more vps than at the beginning.
I like calculation in games. I love it, to calculate what can happen if i do this or that.

But i find it important that beyond this, there shall be a luck factor. I don’t want to play games, where the hardest longest analysing player wins in the end.

Then go on, play chess. It is the emotional part in gaming I calculate my chances. Then i draw 2 cards. Two outcomes. The right cards come, how great was my calculation, it works. Or…the wrong cards, shit my plan don’t work. Highly emotional.
For me the best way of gaming.

So, calculation ? Absolute !
Calculation the only way of winning ? No.

Regards
Ralf

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